Edsel’s DNA is here

Taaa-daaa. I put this on Facebook yesterday and called it “The day we all said, ‘PUG?'”

Also, on Facebook, some people were like, “This isn’t true” and I was all, it’s, you know, pretty science-y, y’all. Do you also think there weren’t dinosaurs?

Anyway, Pug.


I went home and spoke German to Eds, but he found me annoying.

Your favorite mother of a German Cattle Pug Herd,

32 thoughts on “Edsel’s DNA is here

  1. Trying to picture how a pug and a German shepherd mix could even….oh, never mind. Don’t really want to be picturing that. Surprising results, though, wow!


  2. DNA testing for breed or (in humans) ethnicity is still pretty unreliable. If they don’t have samples from, e.g., a Carolina Dog, or an indigenous Greenlander, then they can’t match the new sample to those. So they would not give you those possibilities in the results. I’m sure it will improve little by little.
    Eds is unique, let’s face it.


  3. I really want to do this for my own dogs. One of them is allegedly a Chihuahua/Lab mix but she has a tendency to herd so maybe there’s some Cattle Dog in there. My other dog is allegedly Border Collie and Australian Shepherd which are two of the smartest and hardest working breeds. She, however, shows zero traits of either breed. She does not work, she’s not particularly intelligent. She’s a couch potato who howls along with sirens and is extremely stubborn, which tells me there is very likely some kind of Northern breed in her such as Husky or Malamute.


    1. My Dad’s dog, Thea is a Red Heeler. She is *THE MOST* stubborn dog I have ever met. My Malamute & Husky don’t even come close. I’ve also owned a German Shepard, an Akita, an Old English Sheepdog, an Irish Setter, & a Golden Retriever/Chow. Thea surpasses every single one. I have often referred to her as 35# of PITA.


  4. I’m the one that long ago told you about the Carolina Dog ( Southern Hunting dog, cur,etc). So this is baffling to me. I just don’t get it. That’s all. I’m of no help. This one does have me stumped though.


  5. I do not know anything about the canine DNA testing services, but the human ancestry ones have mostly been… slowly improving abysmal junk.

    Yes, they map bits of the DNA that they’ve concluded are correlated to specific ancestries, but 1. their starting data was bad (consider how many people think they’re descended from Pocahantas; then think about what happens when you take people’s word for their own ancestry percentages and use *that* to generate DNA maps) and 2. it’s not full-DNA-figuring-out, but only paying attention to the bits they *think* are relevant. Obviously, it’s getting slowly better as they’re getting more data and correcting blatant bad links, but still: while sort of science-y, it’s not Exact Science. I guess, if someone tried to figure out your financial priorities based on the receipts left in your purse every Saturday (not the things you have no receipts for; not the things you discarded the receipts for; and using a database of other peoples’ self-reported financial priorities mapped to their Saturday Purse Receipt History to “determine” what the links are), that would be accounting-y but not Exact Accounting?

    Things like “how related to this other person are you, based on how much genetic material you share” range from terrifically bad to good, depending on how much of the genetic material that specific company is actually comparing and, again, what they’re checking it against. (paternity tests allowed in a court of law: pretty good, from what I understand; some online “who are you related to” kits: not so good)

    (the DNA tests for specific genetic mutations are quite definite or black-and-white, though, from what I gather, because there they are looking at just one thing, so unless they screw that up, it’s solid. But there they have actual real *research* demonstrating that this specific teeny bit of DNA is important, and also they’re only telling you “this gene is flipped this way” and *not* “therefore you are part Irish” or whatever.)

    (Which is not to say Edsel isn’t… whatever that is. It’s quite possible that they were able to start out with a database of definitely-purebred-dog DNA – that’s a lot more likely than for the human DNA people… although it’s still possible they’re partly looking in the wrong places.)

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  6. Door color expert Andrea’s comment makes me curious about her dogs, but I think I don’t actually want to know what is involved there. I would NEVER have said German Shepherd for Edsel. I mean, he is lovable as all get out, but I picture those as super tough epic baddy dogs. He makes a lovely letter C though.


    1. My family had a purebred German Shepherd when I was a kid. He was super gentle with me and my little sisters, but was extremely protective and ferocious if he thought someone in the family was in any danger. He didn’t like riding in vehicles and once tried to hide his enormous self behind a clump of grass hoping my Dad wouldn’t see him and make him ride again.

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      1. I agree with Laura. I’ve met some really tough GSDs over the years, including my childhood dog, Leroy.

        BUT I’ve also met some of the biggest chicken GSDs too! The whining!

        My Akita was in dog (aka train your person) school & wanted to eat the GSD puppy because she wouldn’t ever stop whining (pretty much the entire length of the 60 minute class). I really couldn’t blame her… that puppy definitely won for the most obnoxiously ridiculous drama queen German Shepard ever. (She wasn’t even being a scaredy-cat, she was just whiny.)


  7. Hi June,

    My father has an Australian Healer and that breed is purposely a mix of Dingo and other breeds. Healers are intelligent, loyal one person dogs, but family friendly…they can be fierce when protecting their human. German Shepherds are smart too. I dont know what the pug brings to Edsel except his overbite….but he certainly is a handsome boy. He still looks like a Carolina dog to me!

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    1. Not being an ass, but it’s Heeler, as in herding. Although “Healer” is a great signifier of most dogs. (smile emoji, disallowed)


  8. At least he doesn’t have the uncomfortable pug traits (pug lovers don’t shoot me, I don’t dislike them) – the bug eyes that can come out. A pug owner I met once told me she knew how to put the eye back in if it popped out, didn’t need to take it to a vet.

    That’s a hard pass from me.

    Proving I’m not faint of heart when it comes to dog disasters, I have two butthole dogs from my brother-in-law who accidentally brought his female german shepherd home too soon from her stay at grandma’s while she was in heat, and his labrador retriever made his move. The 50-50 mix of that is something I would not recommend because of arse-opening behaviors regularly, but I do love them, as you do.


    1. Hahahahaha! I’m still chuckling about the pug mix!

      My father had a huge German Shepherd that was a giant sissy. He’d curl up in the letter C quite regularly. He was a failed police dog because he was so meek.


  9. I know you read the Bitter Southerner piece on Carolina dogs (https://bittersoutherner.com/carolina-dogs#.XHadXOhKiUk), and it came out a while back so the following passage may not be 100 percent accurate anymore, but I still say Edz is a Carolina dog.

    “As the overseer of the stud book, Bris is the only person who can say whether or not someone owns a Carolina Dog. While Bris and I sat under the shade of a rundown trailer adjacent to the dog pens, Penny in between us, I asked him the question that had toyed with my mind for more than a year since I first searched for ‘American dingo’: Is Penny a Carolina Dog?

    Since no DNA tests exist to prove whether a dog is a Carolina or not, Bris rattles off the three criteria for a Carolina Dog: what they look like, where they come from, what their pups look like.”

    And now I’m off to try and come up with parody lyrics to “No Scrubs” but for “No Pugs”…


  10. Apparently they kept a lot of dogs around to get that kind of a mix! What kind of nut jobs let a full blooded German Shepherd mate with some kind of freaky pug mix? But, we are glad they did or you wouldn’t have your sweet Edsel.


  11. I’m just trying to envision the big-eared, C-shaped, underbitten toofus doofus bachelor pug that co-parented sweet Eds.


    1. Yes! The quote unquote rescue people, Who may or may not have been just sort of trashy people who kept a bunch of dogs, told me his mother was a white German shepherd. I didn’t believe them at the time. Maybe they were right.



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